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scorpion · #1 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 01:44 AM

Many of you might have heard the saying "content is the king ! " See the SERP most sites which rank high for a keyword doesn't have relevant content and if they have to some minute content related to it . Then how does they rank high? Simple it is all done by making the spiders think their site is related to that particular content . Even my blog attained such high ranks due to this linking not the content in the blog . I now think that nothing can be king as long as new ideas pull out . Content was earlier considered to be the king , but no longer . The rank depends more on links both internal links and external links, but be aware the content is more important for visitors . So highly concentrate on content for human's not for search engine's . Search Engine's need more reputation for your site in whatever way you achieve them . What you think??

axs · #2 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

Many of you might have heard the saying "content is the king ! " See the SERP most sites which rank high for a keyword doesn't have relevant content and if they have to some minute content related to it . Then how does they rank high? Simple it is all done by making the spiders think their site is related to that particular content .

I thought content was king.

Do you have any examples on high ranking sites without content?

Edit: Shouldn't the title be 'Content is not King' not 'King is not Content'.

nada · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by axs

I thought content was king.

Do you have any examples on high ranking sites without content?

Edit: Shouldn't the title be 'Content is not King' not 'King is not Content'.

Wow, two weeks ago he said

Content Creation

content is the king and now he is saying it is not?

@scorpion, I would also like to see some examples of your site which does not have good content but is ranked high.

scorpion · #4 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nada

Wow, two weeks ago he said

Content Creation

content is the king and now he is saying it is not?

@scorpion, I would also like to see some examples of your site which does not have good content but is ranked high.

Yeah I told content is the king . The trends seem to change , can give you examples. See my blog . How should it get a top rank with such a few content about SEOBum . It 's Title and Meta tags are optimized for SEOBum and it just jumped from nowhere to the first page . Is it due to the high priority of content?? No guys content is just getting weaker by other stuff like links , Meta and Title , domain name etc.

Another significant example is Welcome to Real Estate - Keralabroker.com . It is ranked high due to domain name .

@ axs Title changed . thanks for the tip

Content really helps you in attaining traffic and to get indexed by Google and other search engine's for right keywords . Content does not play much in SERP . I think you got the idea Nada , Content is important but it is not so important for ranking nowadays.

nada · #5 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

Yeah I told content is the king . The trends seem to change , can give you examples. See my blog . How should it get a top rank with such a few content about SEOBum . It 's Title and Meta tags are optimized for SEOBum and it just jumped from nowhere to the first page . Is it due to the high priority of content?? No guys content is just getting weaker by other stuff like links , Meta and Title , domain name etc.

Another significant example is Welcome to Real Estate - Keralabroker.com . It is ranked high due to domain name .

@ axs Title changed . thanks for the tip

Content really helps you in attaining traffic and to get indexed by Google and other search engine's for right keywords . Content does not play much in SERP . I think you got the idea Nada , Content is important but it is not so important for ranking nowadays.

Where is Welcome to Real Estate - Keralabroker.com ranked high?

Also, what does it mean by content is important but it is not important for ranking?

BTW, when I search SEO Bum at google, I don't see your blog at the first page.

scorpion · #6 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:47 AM

For kerala broker keyword they are ranked on top due to domain advantage .

I have now optimized it for SEOBUM single word see SEOBUM - Google Search .

Content is important to gain more relevant traffic to your site . Content is important for visitors .

nada · #7 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

For kerala broker keyword they are ranked on top due to domain advantage .

I have now optimized it for SEOBUM single word see SEOBUM - Google Search .

Content is important to gain more relevant traffic to your site . Content is important for visitors .

This does not make sense at all.

Weblog Engineering

weblog engineering - Google Search

LunA's Success Story & Bloggerlee

luna's success story - Google Search
bloggerlee - Google Search

My two blogs are also ranked first, if I use these keywords to search it on Google. Almost every website will be ranked first, if you use their domain name or their title to search it on Google.

Also, the name of this forum is SEO Bum (not SEOBum) and you should make a search like this.

SEO bum - Google Search

and my blog is ranked at the first page and I don't see yours anywhere.

scorpion · #8 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 03:01 AM

I now want traffic from those who look for SEOBUM exactly as a single word for my blog . The site I gave you is a real estate site but the domain name would have been more relevant if it was a share market site .

Can you just go through the some thoughts on this SEO Zombie | Rank Better, Make Money

silent_thunder · #9 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

Yeah I told content is the king . The trends seem to change , can give you examples. See my blog . How should it get a top rank with such a few content about SEOBum . It 's Title and Meta tags are optimized for SEOBum and it just jumped from nowhere to the first page . Is it due to the high priority of content?? No guys content is just getting weaker by other stuff like links , Meta and Title , domain name etc.

Another significant example is Welcome to Real Estate - Keralabroker.com . It is ranked high due to domain name .

@ axs Title changed . thanks for the tip

Content really helps you in attaining traffic and to get indexed by Google and other search engine's for right keywords . Content does not play much in SERP . I think you got the idea Nada , Content is important but it is not so important for ranking nowadays.

yes I agree with you on that!! you can manipulate the search results, I was searching for a keyword money making!! this is the first result Money Making Directory is absolutely no content in them which I can use to make money!! Its a directory as all of you can see

scorpion · #10 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 03:01 AM

I now want traffic from those who look for SEOBUM exactly as a single word for my blog . The site I gave you is a real estate site but the domain name would have been more relevant if it was a share market site .

Go through some thoughts on this topic see the blog

SEO Zombie | Rank Better, Make Money

nada · #11 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpion

I now want traffic from those who look for SEOBUM exactly as a single word for my blog . The site I gave you is a real estate site but the domain name would have been more relevant if it was a share market site .

Go through some thoughts on this topic see the blog

SEO Zombie | Rank Better, Make Money

I really liked reading the article that you told me.

However, you can't just reach a conclusion with a article written by a college student.

Do you think having a good content has more possibility to rank higher or trying to do something else without having a good content is easier to rank higher?

Also, SEOBum has only 8K Google search results and SEO Bum has 500K Google search result. Which one do you think is better to be ranked on first page?

scorpion · #12 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 03:23 AM

Actually I tried it out , I have changed Title and Meta tags for a site's homepage and it just came up to the first page from nowhere in the top 100 SERP . How can this be possible ?? It is just due to the PR of the page , backlinks to the page , the traffic to the site . Content does not play a significant role as I have not changed it just changed my Title and Meta tags .

Static · #13 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 05:07 AM

First of all, I think you're understanding the whole thing about "Content is King" wrong. The current trend is that if you optimize your website for search engines, you will rank well and get traffic, but if your content is of low quality, you're site will fail sonner or later. I understand what you're getting at with how content is no more king. To be honest though, I feel like content is no more the only king. In fact, now, it's not exactly a monarchy where content rules above all, but is more a democracy where you need a something from everything. SEO is one of those somethings.

Nonetheless, if you're looking at a long term, I feel that content still remains at the very top. Without quality content, even if you may be hitting a four digital UV per day, it is quite likely that you won't have a lot of returning visitors--if any.

Thus, while content still rules in the end, it certainly isn't the only thing you need to keep your mind on, as SEO plays such a significant role these days in getting some SE traffic. However, most of the time, once a visitor visits a site a couple times, they won't visit that site via a SE, so in that case, SEO's role ends, while content's role continues on.

By the way, I think trying to rank for a bad keyword that hardly anyone competes for, then sticking it into the title and meta, and then claiming how content doesn't matter because of this scenario, is a really bad scenario overall.

scorpion · #14 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 05:19 AM

Yes Static , the bounce rate is a fact why still the content has a significant role to play .

The monarchy ages are over for content and from links to social bookmarking everything has its own part to play .

Spammers and blackhat SEO's can benefit a lot from negative optimization like the false domain name choosing and optimizing for low competitive keywords .

It is really sad that relevant content websites are not ranking high on Search Engine

mikey1090 · #15 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 05:34 AM

I think he needs to re-phrase -

Content is King, but links are the Kingdom

Static · #16 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1090

I think he needs to re-phrase -

Content is King, but links are the Kingdom

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Spammers and black hat people may get it their way, but honestly, most people can differentiate the good from the bad. Even if your SEO skills suck, if the quality of your content is good, the word will get out sooner or later. Often, these quality websites make it big and they influence the way Google works on their algorithms.

deluxdon · #17 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:21 AM

Content is still King IMO

DON.